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| Time | Nick | Message |
|---|---|---|
| 12:02 | indradg | hi owen how goes? |
| 12:02 | owen | Pretty good, you? |
| 12:03 | indradg | getting along... plenty of travelling... but things are looking up |
| 12:04 | distributed abt 100 LiveCD... terrific demand :) | |
| 12:04 | had some people here asking if we cud create .deb files for Koha | |
| 12:07 | kados | indradg: we could |
| 12:07 | indradg: but noone has stepped forward and done so | |
| 12:07 | indradg: if someone was willing they could get a shiny official title ;-) | |
| 12:08 | indradg: Package Manager for Koha ;-) | |
| 12:08 | indradg: but then you've already got one of those ;-) | |
| 12:08 | indradg | hmm... my team does have a debian package maintainer (for Indian Language packs)... we cud spin the debs |
| 12:09 | kados, heh | |
| 12:10 | right now we are a little busy specing a cluster-able appliance server product :) | |
| 12:11 | kados | indradg: understood |
| 14:15 | owen | Does anyone else have a problem with marc_subfield_structure.pl saving duplicate subfield entries? |
| 14:15 | I thought it was just my template (NPL), but now it's doing it with the default template too. | |
| 14:16 | I don't know if it's just our system, or if it's a real bug | |
| 14:17 | I've spent all day tearing apart the template trying to find out where I'm going wrong, and I haven't come up with anything. | |
| 14:19 | It's a nasty bug, because if you end up with two subfield 'a's, you can't just delete one, because all Koha knows to do is delete anything with that tag number and that subfield code | |
| 14:34 | kados | owen: this is on our production machine? |
| 14:35 | owen: or rel_2_2 in CVS? | |
| 14:35 | owen | I know it's happening on 101 (rel_2_2) |
| 14:35 | But it didn't used to happen in the default template, so I'm not sure what's going on there. | |
| 14:35 | kados | strange |
| 00:11 | Icez | hmm |
| 00:12 | chris | hi |
| 00:12 | Icez | hi |
| 00:12 | do u no how i can make my pc txt my cell phone | |
| 00:13 | chris | in koha? |
| 00:14 | Icez | ya |
| 00:14 | chris | not easily |
| 00:14 | you will need to have a modem for the machine | |
| 00:15 | Icez | ahh l |
| 00:15 | k | |
| 00:15 | i like Unrealircd | |
| 00:16 | i use that on ma network | |
| 00:16 | running off ma dedicated server | |
| 00:16 | chris | i dont think anyone has done it yet in nz, because its gets expensive (sms overdues etc) |
| 00:17 | so you have koha installed? | |
| 00:17 | Icez | no |
| 00:17 | also why is the network name undernet | |
| 00:17 | chris | we never bothered to change it |
| 00:18 | so are you thinking about installing koha? | |
| 00:18 | Icez | what is koda |
| 00:18 | koha | |
| 00:18 | chris | #koha is for talking about koha http://koha.org/ |
| 00:19 | heh | |
| 00:20 | some lost kid is my bet :) | |
| 00:38 | rach | yes |
| 04:07 | Icez | hi |
| 04:14 | hi | |
| 05:36 | kados | heh |
| 05:49 | chris | it must be either very early or very late for you kados |
| 09:58 | owen | When you're creating a new framework, and you're offered the choice of which other framework to base it on, it would be great if you could also choose 'use only used tags/subfields' |
| 09:58 | Does that make sense? | |
| 09:59 | hdl | indeed, ppl goes there to edit a new frwk. |
| 10:00 | select, new fields, new subfields... | |
| 10:00 | If you hide them, right from the start, I think you miss the point. Am I right ? | |
| 10:01 | owen | The problem is, there's no efficient way to delete unused subfields from a framework |
| 10:01 | hdl | Or you would have to suppose that default frwk would be set to include EVERY Frwk that you would like to create, whichseems to be currently the case. :/ |
| 10:02 | owen | For instance: our default framework has a lot of unused tags |
| 10:03 | It's like a "super-framework" with most of the options we might use | |
| 10:03 | The frameworks we'd like to create are sub-sets of that framework | |
| 10:03 | So it's more a matter of deleting unused ones than adding new ones | |
| 10:03 | hdl | Oh yes. Now I got the point. |
| 10:04 | Might be a good thing. | |
| 10:04 | owen | The other idea I had was to present the user with a list of tags to include in the new framework, and they could put a check next to the tags they wanted |
| 10:19 | hdl | first one is better to my mind. Supposing Default Framework would gather all the information needed in the other ones. |
| 11:56 | thd | owen: What is wrong with hiding the unused fields from the user? If the user deletes the wrong field, he has an incomplete MARC record that may be missing a required field as the default Koha frameworks are already, with the missing required fixed fields. If required fields are missing, then the records are not good for exchanging with other institutions. If the user is copy cataloguing, he can have the benefit of required fields for valid |
| 11:56 | records without having to see them if he does not care. | |
| 11:59 | owen | Hiding is fine... but Koha doesn't do that. Koha *does* offer frameworks, so that's the approach I'm following. |
| 11:59 | Why have a framework if you're not going to customize it for your particular task? |
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