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| Time | Nick | Message |
|---|---|---|
| 12:01 | indradg | kados, around? |
| 12:01 | kados, ping! | |
| 12:25 | kados | indradg: sure am |
| 12:25 | what's up? | |
| 12:44 | indradg: need help getting CVS going? | |
| 12:55 | indradg | kados, sorry wasn't around |
| 13:08 | kados | indradg: I'm here if you need help with something |
| 13:41 | hey paul_away | |
| 13:41 | late night for you ;-) | |
| 13:41 | paul_away | (not here, just looking at my bank account |
| 13:42 | kados | hehe |
| 13:42 | paul_away | not really, it's jus 9PM |
| 13:42 | kados | right |
| 13:42 | paul_away | (& suspect you don't either...) |
| 13:43 | kados | heh |
| 13:46 | indradg | kados, i'll be away tomorrow and day after sayamindu (logged in here as unmadindu) will handle the ISO upload |
| 13:46 | he'll ping you if he faces any problem | |
| 13:46 | kados | sounds good |
| 13:46 | indradg: so your sf account is working ok? | |
| 13:47 | indradg | yup |
| 13:47 | kados | indradg: does he need one too? |
| 13:47 | indradg | he can use my userid |
| 13:47 | kados | cool |
| 13:48 | indradg: so what will the livecd do? | |
| 13:48 | I can boot off the CD and run a sample koha will full dataset? | |
| 13:49 | indradg | yep.. thats the idea... we are putting up a sample data set from my WBUT implementation |
| 13:50 | with about 1000 titles | |
| 13:50 | kados | sweet |
| 13:50 | can you use NPL templates? | |
| 13:50 | (or what templates would you be using?) | |
| 13:51 | indradg | IIRC sayamindu when with the defaults |
| 13:51 | kados | ok |
| 13:52 | indradg | s/when/went/ |
| 16:23 | kados | rach: if you're around: Paul's planning 2.2.3 for Monday IIRC |
| 16:37 | chris | morning |
| 16:37 | kados | morning chris |
| 16:38 | I'm having trouble with Koha barcode generation | |
| 16:38 | FYI | |
| 16:38 | I installed PDF:API2 and in my .cpan/build/PDF.... I have Utils.pm (with the right tree) | |
| 16:38 | chris | ive never even tried it |
| 16:39 | kados | but it's giving me the errorCan't locate PDF/API2/PDF/Utils.pm in @INC |
| 16:39 | chris | didnt someone on the mailing list have that problem also? |
| 16:39 | kados | I installed it with CPAN ... doesn't that normally place it in the INC? |
| 16:39 | yea | |
| 16:39 | but the solution was to install PDF::API2 ;-) | |
| 16:39 | chris | :) |
| 16:40 | ive never tried it, so cant be much help im afraid | |
| 16:40 | kados | right ... |
| 16:40 | do you happen to know if it's normal to have .cpan included in @INC? | |
| 16:41 | chris | nope |
| 16:41 | make install should put it in /usr/local/share/perl something something | |
| 16:41 | kados | right ... that's what I thought ... I don't see it showing up there |
| 16:42 | chris | id go into .cpan/build etc |
| 16:42 | and do a make install | |
| 16:42 | and see what it does | |
| 16:42 | kados | k ... I'll try it |
| 16:43 | Writing /usr/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.8.5/i386-linux-thread-multi/auto/PDF/API2/.packlistAppending installation info to /usr/lib/perl5/5.8.5/i386-linux-thread-multi/perllocal.pod | |
| 16:43 | that's it ... it exited | |
| 16:43 | must be something screwy with this version or smt | |
| 16:43 | chris | hmm |
| 16:43 | perl Makefile.PL | |
| 16:43 | then make | |
| 16:43 | kados | # perl Makefile.PLWriting Makefile for PDF::API2This is PDF::API2, Version 0.43 (2005-06-10 16:38:39) |
| 16:44 | make gives not message | |
| 16:44 | s/not/no/ | |
| 16:44 | chris | hmm |
| 16:44 | kados | make install gives same as before |
| 16:44 | chris | make should give some messages |
| 16:44 | making hte man pages at the least | |
| 16:44 | kados | I'm gonna try installing the depends |
| 16:45 | Compress::Zlib | |
| 16:45 | chris | does make test do anything? |
| 16:45 | kados | # make test |
| 16:45 | PERL_DL_NONLAZY=1 /usr/bin/perl "-MExtUtils::Command::MM" "-e" "test_harness(0, 'blib/lib', 'blib/arch')" t/*.t | |
| 16:45 | t/00use....ok All tests successful.Files=1, Tests=1, 6 wallclock secs ( 2.19 cusr + 0.20 csys = 2.39 CPU) | |
| 16:48 | chris | thats just mental |
| 16:50 | kados | perl -MCPAN -e 'install Compress::Zlib'; |
| 16:50 | Can't locate object method "install" via package "Compress::Zlib" at -e line 1. | |
| 16:55 | chris | thats pretty weird |
| 16:55 | what if you do it by hand? | |
| 16:56 | kados | hmmm, does that just involve copying the directory tree over to the perl dirs? |
| 16:57 | chris | nope, go in do a perl Makefile.PL |
| 16:57 | make | |
| 16:57 | make test | |
| 16:57 | make install | |
| 16:57 | kados | yea ... that's what I just did ;-) |
| 16:57 | ahh ... you mean for Compress::Zlib | |
| 16:57 | chris | yeah |
| 16:57 | seems pretty mental it has no install | |
| 16:58 | kados | /usr/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.8.5/i386-linux-thread-multi/auto/Compress/Zlib |
| 16:58 | already exists | |
| 16:58 | strangely | |
| 16:58 | I wonder if we've got a situation with the Fedora package overlapping with CPAN | |
| 16:59 | chris | could be |
| 17:31 | kados | ok ... I installed the fedora version of Compress::Zlib |
| 17:31 | then reinstalled PDF::API | |
| 17:32 | now I have a | |
| 17:32 | /usr/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.8.5/PDF/API2/Basic/PDF/Utils.pm | |
| 17:32 | chris | that sounds more like it |
| 17:32 | kados | and I'm getting the error: |
| 17:32 | Can't locate PDF/API2/PDF/Utils.pm in @INC | |
| 17:32 | chris | yep |
| 17:32 | kados | so maybe they've restructured the PDF::API2? |
| 17:32 | chris | looks like it |
| 17:32 | kados | shit |
| 17:32 | I tried adding 'use PDF::API2::Basic' | |
| 17:33 | chris | did you try |
| 17:33 | use PDF::API2::Basic::PDF | |
| 17:33 | kados | about to |
| 17:33 | chris | or even |
| 17:33 | use PDF::API2::Basic::PDF::Utils | |
| 17:35 | kados | same error for both :-( |
| 17:35 | chris | darn |
| 17:35 | is there a Changelog file | |
| 17:35 | in the .cpan/build | |
| 17:38 | kados | nothing interestinng in there related to Utils |
| 17:38 | looks like it's been in Basic at least since 2003 | |
| 17:39 | chris | hmm im out of ideas |
| 17:40 | kados | ahha! |
| 17:40 | use PDF::API2::PDF::Utils; | |
| 17:40 | that's got to be a bug | |
| 17:40 | it's in one of the scripts | |
| 17:42 | better: | |
| 17:42 | Sun Jun 19 18:41:26 2005] [error] [client 192.168.4.105] Can't locate object method "barcode" via package "PDF::API2" at /home/koha001/koha/intranet/cgi-bin/barcodes/barcodesGenerator.pl line 237., referer: http://lpiintranet.liblime.com[…]codes/barcodes.pl | |
| 17:50 | interesting | |
| 17:50 | http://tinyurl.com/874wh | |
| 17:51 | here we have (in japanese) a PDF::API2::Barcode | |
| 17:51 | which uses the $pdf->barcode method | |
| 18:26 | but the CPAN version of PDF::API2 doesn't have a barcode method that I can see | |
| 19:09 | on debian: | |
| 19:09 | /usr/local/share/perl/5.8.4/PDF/API2/PDF/Utils.pm | |
| 19:09 | /usr/local/share/perl/5.8.4/PDF/API2/TTF/Utils.pm | |
| 19:09 | I'm guessing Debian must be like at least one major version behind on those modules | |
| 19:09 | and that's the problem | |
| 19:10 | chris: owen just pinged me to say that barcode generation is working fine on our test debian machine | |
| 19:11 | and so the developer of the Koha bacode stuff must have been doing it on woody | |
| 02:35 | paul | 'lut |
| 02:35 | hdl | Salut. |
| 06:28 | kados | hi paul, hdl |
| 06:28 | paul: I heard from Emiliano this morning | |
| 06:28 | paul: it seems he'll be sending the code soon ;-) | |
| 06:32 | paul: also ... I've found a solution to the problem "z39.50 is not an innovative search method) | |
| 06:32 | http://www.loc.gov/z3950/agency/zing/cql/ | |
| 06:32 | Zebra (with yaz proxy and maybe even without it) supports CQL | |
| 06:43 | paul | 'morning joshua/kados. |
| 06:47 | kados | I think CQL is about as innovative as search methods for libraries come ;-) |
| 06:48 | paul | will be in 2.2.3 |
| 06:48 | kados | excellent! |
| 06:54 | paul: what's the full name of EMN? | |
| 06:54 | paul | Ecole des Mines de Nantes |
| 06:54 | kados | thx |
| 07:28 | paul | monsieur osmoze bonjour |
| 07:29 | bienvenue dans cet ilot de fraicheur au milieu de cet océan de canicule... | |
| 07:46 | osmoze | lol |
| 07:46 | coucou paul | |
| 07:46 | :) | |
| 08:52 | anacaona | hello all |
| 08:52 | paul | hello canada |
| 08:53 | welcome here. | |
| 08:53 | anacaona | i'm having problems with koha 2.0.2, with the z3950 search |
| 08:53 | hi paul. | |
| 08:54 | there aren't any error messages in the logs, but the results screen just refreshes with not content. | |
| 08:54 | i tried to add the "my $context=C4::Context->new();" line that phill hardstaff suggested on the list | |
| 08:55 | but a bit blindly since i didn't know in which script or which line to add it (didn't work) | |
| 08:55 | paul | did you setup the z3950daemon ? |
| 08:55 | in scripts/z3950 iirc | |
| 08:56 | anacaona | iirc? |
| 08:56 | paul | (are you a canadian speaking english or french ? because i'm french ;-) ) |
| 08:56 | (If I Remember Correctly) | |
| 08:56 | anacaona | je peux parler en français aussi, si cela vous convient mieux. :-) |
| 08:56 | aaah. | |
| 08:56 | paul | no, english is fine. |
| 08:56 | anacaona | yes, i'm launching the script from there, no error messages or anything but it doesn't seem to work |
| 08:57 | paul | do you have "still ?? requests to go" |
| 08:57 | anacaona | yes. |
| 08:57 | paul | forever ? |
| 08:57 | anacaona | yes. |
| 08:57 | paul | (with ??) |
| 08:57 | anacaona | ?? |
| 08:57 | i double checked the data for loc and it seems fine. | |
| 08:57 | paul | so, you don't have z3950 daemon setup |
| 08:57 | koha is in /usr/local/koha ? | |
| 08:57 | anacaona | no... |
| 08:57 | /var/www/koha | |
| 08:58 | paul | a question : why did you install 2.0.2 and not 2.2.2b ? |
| 08:58 | anacaona | i installed it about a month ago... maybe 2.2. wasn't out yet? |
| 08:58 | paul | so, look in /var/www/koha/intranet/scripts/z3950daemon/ |
| 08:58 | (no, 2.2.x is here since january) | |
| 08:59 | anacaona | hmm. i really don't know... |
| 08:59 | lemme upgrade and see if things go better. | |
| 09:00 | oh, at sourceforge 2.0.2. is the first option, i guess i just clicked without looking. | |
| 09:00 | paul | no, things won't go better with 2.2.x |
| 09:00 | you MUST setup the z3950daemon if you want z3950 to work | |
| 09:01 | because the z3950 search works : | |
| 09:01 | 1- clic on "z3950 search" | |
| 09:01 | 2- the server see "oh, my librarian want a z3950 search. I save this query for the daemon" | |
| 09:01 | anacaona | yes. |
| 09:02 | paul | 2b- the server answers "waiting for daemon answers" (the still ?? requests to go) |
| 09:02 | 3- the daemon awakes and say "oh my god, i've some z3950 servers to query" | |
| 09:02 | 4- the damon calls for each z3950 server & wait for the answer | |
| 09:02 | anacaona | but i launched the server and there doesn't seem to be any errors. |
| 09:02 | paul | 5- your apache servers sees & show the answerts from the daemon when they arrive. |
| 09:02 | anacaona | so what do youmean by "setup the daemon" |
| 09:03 | paul | you should see infos in the z3950 demon log |
| 09:03 | anacaona | there's nothing there. |
| 09:03 | paul | in /var/www/koha/intranet/scripts/z3950daemon/ |
| 09:03 | anacaona | there's nothing in the log |
| 09:03 | paul | you have a z3950-daemon-options |
| 09:03 | anacaona | its empty |
| 09:03 | yeah, i've looked through it, its fine. | |
| 09:03 | paul | the z3950-daemon-options contains all options. |
| 09:03 | so, run "process3950queue" in a term & look at the output | |
| 09:04 | (export PERL5LIB before) | |
| 09:04 | export PERL5LIB=/path/to/koha/modules | |
| 09:04 | (where the C4 directory is) | |
| 09:05 | anacaona | command not found |
| 09:06 | paul | your term is bash ? |
| 09:06 | anacaona | yup |
| 09:06 | paul | ./processz3950queue |
| 09:06 | ;-) | |
| 09:06 | anacaona | :-) |
| 09:06 | starting loop | |
| 09:07 | it really likes to start the loop. :-) | |
| 09:07 | paul | ok, so clic on "search z3950" now |
| 09:07 | (on librarian interface) | |
| 09:07 | you should see what the daemon is doing | |
| 09:09 | anacaona | still at starting loo0p |
| 09:09 | paul | mmm... then your daemon-options is wrong. |
| 09:09 | or : | |
| 09:09 | anacaona | wait... |
| 09:09 | paul | did you setup a z3950 server ? |
| 09:09 | anacaona | there's something in the log |
| 09:09 | paul | koha >> parameters >> z3950 servers ? |
| 09:09 | anacaona | yeah, two servers. |
| 09:10 | lemme try the second one. | |
| 09:10 | (library of congress and mcgill univ) | |
| 09:10 | paul | (with checked=1 of course, otherwise the server is ignored) |
| 09:11 | anacaona | i remember in a prior version of koha you could choose which z3950 server to search |
| 09:13 | nope | |
| 09:14 | paul | so, change for checked=1 ! |
| 09:14 | anacaona | yeah, i switched from library of congress to mcgill university and same problem. |
| 09:16 | paul | if you don't see anything in term with processz3950 queue, |
| 09:16 | then it means your daemon-options is wrong | |
| 09:17 | anacaona | RunAsUser=www-data |
| 09:17 | KohaZ3950Dir=/var/www/koha/intranet/scripts/z3950daemon | |
| 09:17 | KohaModuleDir=/var/www/koha/intranet/modules | |
| 09:17 | LogDir=/var/log/koha | |
| 09:17 | KohaConf=/etc/koha.conf | |
| 09:18 | paul | is www-data able to read /etc/koha.conf ? |
| 09:18 | (permissions) | |
| 09:18 | anacaona | yup |
| 09:18 | paul | & able to write in logs ? |
| 09:18 | anacaona | yup |
| 09:18 | paul | mmm... no idea... |
| 09:29 | owen : meeting has been changed to 20GMT | |
| 09:29 | owen | I knew that :) |
| 09:29 | paul | (hello however) |
| 09:30 | anacaona | paul. |
| 09:30 | owen | Oh, url probably changed too... |
| 09:30 | anacaona | it wasn't working because... |
| 09:30 | they didn't have the book i was looking for at either library! | |
| 09:30 | paul | :-( |
| 09:30 | anacaona | <--- big dummy |
| 09:31 | paul | note that if you're searching for an isbn you already have, you won't find it either. |
| 09:32 | hdl | hi owen |
| 09:32 | owen | Hi hdl |
| 09:33 | anacaona | how so? |
| 09:35 | paul | if you search an isbn for a book that is already in your DB, the z3950server will return it. But Koha will discard the result, considering you have it |
| 09:35 | the default being it does it silently | |
| 09:36 | owen | I wonder if it should display the result but highlight it differently from the other results? |
| 09:36 | In case the person searching didn't know they already had it? | |
| 09:37 | kados | morning owen |
| 09:37 | paul | it should probably do something like this |
| 09:37 | owen | Hi kados |
| 09:38 | anacaona | paul, thing is with the acquisitions menu you search through your catalogue first anyhow, |
| 09:38 | so its totally safe for the z3950 daemon to chuck results for pre-existing isbn | |
| 09:39 | thank you so much for your help with this. | |
| 09:39 | paul | right, but we can't ignore users that ignore koha features :-( |
| 10:07 | anacaona | true |
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