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| Time | Nick | Message |
|---|---|---|
| 12:37 | indradg | kados, around? |
| 13:17 | owen | I haven't seen kados this afternoon. |
| 13:24 | kados | indradg: I"m here now ... what's up? |
| 14:54 | owen | kados: are you still around? |
| 15:02 | The new permissions sytem seems to work great, but I'm confused about how the flags settings work in the scripts | |
| 15:02 | The admin-home page, for instance, has this: | |
| 15:02 | authnotrequired => 0, | |
| 15:02 | flagsrequired => {parameters => 1, management => 1, tools => 1}, | |
| 15:03 | It's not that you have to have all those flags set to access the page, it seems like that's listing what flags are /checked/ on the page. | |
| 15:04 | Is that correct? | |
| 15:04 | If so, it would mean you'd have to specify *every* flag in every script, since the site-wide navigation needs to be customized based on permissions | |
| 15:05 | (well, almost every flag) | |
| 15:15 | kados | owen: I'm not sure about that |
| 15:15 | I wonder if it defaults to certain values if you don't specify | |
| 15:16 | indradg | kados, remember I spoke to u abt my corrupted marc_words table... well i did a REPAIR table, the table is back but some of the data is missing |
| 15:17 | kados | hmmm, do you have a bakup? |
| 15:17 | backup even? | |
| 15:17 | indradg | chris suggested that I try dropping the marc_* tables and re-run koha2marc.pl to rebuild the marc_* tables |
| 15:18 | kados | yep you could do that ... there's actually a script written by me in misc that builds it for you thou ;-) |
| 15:18 | and it optimizes it along the way ;-) | |
| 15:18 | indradg | and that would be? |
| 15:18 | kados | build_marcword or something |
| 15:18 | lemme look | |
| 15:19 | yea build_marc_word.pl ;-) | |
| 15:19 | in misc | |
| 15:19 | you have marc21 right? | |
| 15:19 | indradg | right |
| 15:20 | kados | ok ... and double check the holdings tag for your library ... |
| 15:20 | I think the script uses 942k | |
| 15:20 | indradg | ok |
| 15:20 | kados | if your library doesn't use that you'll need to replace '942k' with whatever your library uses |
| 15:20 | other than that it should work ... | |
| 15:21 | indradg | holdings tag...that would the item specific stuff like barcodes et al ? |
| 15:24 | aah... i see... reading code always helps :P | |
| 15:24 | sorry for the cluebie q :P | |
| 15:25 | kados, u rock! thanks a ton! :) | |
| 15:28 | kados | ;-) np |
| 15:29 | owen | Hmm... I must be wrong about the flags. It looks like you don't have to specify the flags in each script. |
| 15:29 | kados | that's a relief ;-) |
| 15:29 | owen | (that certainly makes more sense) |
| 15:30 | I'm not sure why admin-home.pl has the code it does | |
| 15:46 | mike_here | <i>michael</i> will have to wait too... until May 9 to meet Paul again ;-) |
| 15:46 | michael | hi everyone |
| 15:47 | anyone have news from Nelsonville these last few days ?... hum... must be exciting to leave his country like Paul does :-@ | |
| 15:48 | just back home for me... i send a msg to russell @ kapito not long ago... is he came here sometimes ? | |
| 15:48 | thanx | |
| 15:48 | owen | We had a very enjoyable and informative meeting with Paul and his travelling companions |
| 15:50 | michael | cool ;-) |
| 15:50 | did Paul and his companions still "travel" around Nelsonville ? or is he already on the way home ??? | |
| 15:51 | you know : i'm curious and very big fan of "PaulPoul" | |
| 15:53 | or "tipaul" if you prefer this nickname... my girlfriend Marilyne is already "sick" about "PaulPoul" because i sometimes speak too much of him and his great msg on the french list | |
| 15:53 | she said i'll be decieved when i meet him again in May... but i guess she's wrong and a little jalous too ;-) | |
| 15:53 | owen | They're probably at the airport in Columbus, OH right now |
| 15:54 | They'll be on the plane in another couple of hours | |
| 15:54 | michael | i rather think i 'm "in love with" Marilyne but also "found of" PaulPoul... she tells me i'im crazy... |
| 15:54 | OH... i guess i will dreamt of PaulPoul this night :-| in the plane to go back home... | |
| 15:55 | owen | Yes, so he probably won't be here in #koha tonight ;) |
| 15:56 | michael | ... hum... is it true that some libraries in Canada or Québec (french Canada) are, as far as i heard, are interested in Koha ??? |
| 15:56 | Marilyne (who's not in my appartment right now) had tripped to Quebec... | |
| 15:57 | oh :-/ bye owen... | |
| 15:57 | see u next time... | |
| 15:57 | oki... so am i... i'll go to zzzleeeppsoon... | |
| 15:57 | kados | michael: take care ;-) |
| 15:57 | michael | thanx |
| 15:58 | so do you | |
| 16:04 | hum i think i sleep well... Ohio's not so far from Canada... when you see this map on the Internet http://freepages.genealogy.roo[…]ed_States_Map.jpg | |
| 16:04 | so there is still hope that maybe somedays Marilyne will go again in Canada... and maybe with a kind of new family this time... | |
| 16:04 | sorry i dream awake on IRC... guess go really sleep | |
| 16:04 | bye ;-) | |
| 16:34 | rach | hello |
| 16:53 | kados | hi rach |
| 16:59 | rach | hi, lib lime is looking good |
| 17:10 | kados | thanks! |
| 17:49 | chris: I've a search idea ... like some feedback | |
| 17:49 | so currently we've got a marc_word table | |
| 17:50 | every marc word every time it appears | |
| 17:50 | paul's brilliant idea was to have marc_words | |
| 17:50 | where every marc word only appears once per tagsubfield | |
| 17:51 | and a there is a 'itemnumbers' column for all the items that have that word (in csv) | |
| 17:51 | but that's problematic for updating eh? | |
| 17:51 | so here's the idea | |
| 17:52 | we have instead an identifier for each word | |
| 17:52 | then another table with the itemnumbers and ids | |
| 17:52 | AND the complete display for the OPAC/Intranet | |
| 17:52 | so there are two queries ... | |
| 17:53 | one to get the id for the words | |
| 17:53 | and one to get everything else | |
| 17:53 | what do you think? | |
| 17:55 | chris | hmmm |
| 17:56 | rach | but IANAP :-) |
| 17:57 | chris | itll depend on how fast you can get those queries going |
| 17:58 | and making sure that all updates modify all the tables | |
| 18:02 | kados | right ... if I were to test this theoretically I would probably set it up as a script to run nightly |
| 18:03 | to rebuild the marc_words and marc_words_display tables | |
| 18:03 | chris | yeah ... which would mean that potentially during the day you will be returning wrong results |
| 18:04 | kados | could be |
| 18:04 | as far as speed goes here's an initial table estimate: | |
| 18:04 | select count(*) from marc_word: | |
| 18:04 | 4630390 | |
| 18:05 | select count(distinct word, tagsubfield) from marc_word: | |
| 18:05 | 543767 | |
| 18:05 | quite a difference | |
| 18:05 | chris | yep |
| 18:06 | kados | rach: if you think this sounds slow you should see what we're doing now ;-) |
| 18:07 | and the good news is that it levels out when your database grows | |
| 18:07 | cause all the words are already in there ;-) | |
| 18:07 | and you can do nifty ranking too (if a word occurs in more than one tagsubfield it has a higher ranking) | |
| 18:08 | chris | true |
| 18:16 | rach | to see if she can convince anyone else it's a good plan :-) |
| 21:00 | miklZzzzz | i got an idea though i'm sleepy mind kados but it's EXPERIMENTAL |
| 21:01 | in informagik it's possible to do i suppose but what librarians will think of it and users too, i don't know : EXPERIMENTAL as i say, do you want to here it ??? or read i mean ??? | |
| 21:02 | anyone here wants to here ? it's about moving books and people the same way with Koha ??? anyone ?? | |
| 21:04 | michael | maybe i'll make a flop because its not "new at all" but if i don't share this idea soon i guess i will forget it one day... |
| 21:04 | kados | well ... ? |
| 21:04 | :-) | |
| 21:04 | michael | so : imagine you have several branches |
| 21:05 | let's name take 2 : TOTORO and NAUSICAA | |
| 21:06 | or more, that's not the key point... | |
| 21:06 | so the books of NAUSICAA branches are borrowed in NAUSICAA but the borrower like also to go in TOTORO | |
| 21:07 | kados | so is this a consortia you're talking about? |
| 21:07 | michael | when the NAUSICAA books are "bipped" or scanner in TOTORO branch, the localisation changes "en temps réel" in real time |
| 21:07 | this books are no localised in TOTORO branches and it changes it on the OPAC | |
| 21:08 | kados | interesting |
| 21:08 | I think paul may have a solution for that | |
| 21:08 | you should ask him when he is back | |
| 21:08 | michael | users of NAUSICAA used to finds a book in particular in they local library dont find it anymore IF and ONLY IF the user themselves MAKE THE BOOKS MOVE |
| 21:09 | in a way, PEOPLE are ACTIVE in the CIRCULATION of the BOOKS they borrowed... | |
| 21:09 | you follow ? | |
| 21:09 | kados | yea ... that's neat |
| 21:10 | but I doubt libraries would go for it ;-) | |
| 21:10 | they like to control the books ;-) | |
| 21:10 | michael | YES because of the "poussiérieuse" notion of COLLECTION and PLACES we have when you learn this work... |
| 21:10 | oki ;-) | |
| 21:11 | poussière = dust | |
| 21:11 | you say "dusty" ??? | |
| 21:11 | good night kados ;-) | |
| 21:13 | i stay and will concentrate on this shadoks' idea by reading a book :-) | |
| 21:59 | mkl_read | rach, what kind of pictures u need ?? |
| 21:59 | drawning ? | |
| 22:09 | michael | mkl_read |
| 22:22 | rach | hey, oh yes I need to draw some pictures to get it straight in my head |
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