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| Time | Nick | Message |
|---|---|---|
| 12:06 | owen | paul around? |
| 12:06 | paul | yes |
| 12:06 | owen | Hi paul. |
| 12:06 | paul | writting release notes for 2.2.2 in french |
| 12:06 | good morning own | |
| 12:06 | owen | we've run into a pretty nasty bug in circulation |
| 12:07 | It happens when someone checks out an item which is on reserve for another patron. | |
| 12:07 | paul | (my flight ticket for Columbus is in my hand... arriving on Saturday, april, 9 at 7:11PM) |
| 12:07 | owen | If you override the reserve, but don't cancel it, the item is made waiting for that other patron at the same time that it's being issued |
| 12:08 | paul | if I understand, it means : |
| 12:08 | * item is reserved by X | |
| 12:08 | * Y tries to issue it | |
| 12:09 | * the librarian confirm & don't cancel the reserve | |
| 12:09 | * the item is marked "waiting" for X | |
| 12:09 | owen | That's correct |
| 12:10 | paul | and X comes to the library to get the item, so, you'll have some problems... |
| 12:10 | you should have some logs | |
| 12:11 | something like FillReserve, Waiting, Reserved | |
| 12:11 | owen | Yes, I've noticed that |
| 12:11 | paul | then CancelReserve or transferbook |
| 12:11 | and you have what exactly ? | |
| 12:32 | owen | Reserved at /usr/local/koha/intranet/modules//C4/Circulation/Circ2.pm line 846. |
| 12:32 | transferbook at /usr/local/koha/intranet/modules//C4/Circulation/Circ2.pm line 863. | |
| 17:06 | rach | hello |
| 18:31 | hi rosalie | |
| 18:32 | rosa | hi rach, anyone else watching |
| 18:41 | rach | dunno - owen and paul were around earlier, but I haven't got time stamping turned on so I can't see how much earlier |
| 18:43 | hi owen | |
| 18:43 | no one has helped me with my authority file confusion :-( | |
| 18:43 | owen | Authority file confusion? |
| 18:44 | rach | I can't work out how to actually start/add an authority |
| 18:44 | rosa | that's two of us |
| 18:44 | rach | I think I need to do something with the marc mapping |
| 18:44 | but it's doing my head in | |
| 18:44 | owen | Do you mean an authorized value? |
| 18:44 | rach | yes |
| 18:45 | so like "English" for language | |
| 18:45 | it *looks* like you can do it | |
| 18:45 | my question was wether it only worked if you were using unimarc | |
| 18:45 | which is what the docs seem to say | |
| 18:46 | owen | No, I've used them with MARC21 |
| 18:46 | rach | yeah it didn't really seem likely |
| 18:46 | owen | How far have you gotten? Have you set up a list of values in 'Authorised values admin'? |
| 18:47 | Start by going to Parameters -> Authorised values | |
| 18:48 | rach | what is a category? |
| 18:49 | owen | A category is a group of authorized values, so you might create a 'lang' category for your language values |
| 18:49 | rach | ok |
| 18:49 | and what is "lib" | |
| 18:50 | owen | I don't see that. Is that on the 'add new category' page? |
| 18:50 | rach | yes |
| 18:51 | owen | My installation of 2.2 has Category, Authorised Value, and Text as the options. |
| 18:51 | rach | ok what is text? |
| 18:51 | is that like the long version of the value? | |
| 18:51 | owen | Yes |
| 18:51 | rach | so En = English |
| 18:52 | :-) | |
| 18:52 | Ok so I've got a category = language, auth value = english, lib =English | |
| 18:53 | how do I add more to the same category? | |
| 18:54 | owen | Is there an 'add authorised value' button? |
| 18:54 | rach | nope |
| 18:54 | 2 add category buttons | |
| 18:55 | so that might be a template bug | |
| 18:55 | hmm delete doesn't work either | |
| 18:55 | owen | Hmm... Are you working with an up-to-date copy of 2.2? |
| 18:56 | rach | ah maybe not - 2.2.0RC3 |
| 18:57 | owen | I'm afraid we'll have to pick this up again tomorrow. I have to leave. |
| 18:58 | rach | ok ta |
| 18:59 | ah that's funny, we're doing hte same thing rosalie | |
| 18:59 | rosa | I might have to send someone off to do some MARC training |
| 19:00 | chris | im fairly sure the geneva convention prevents that rosa |
| 19:00 | rach | yeah I reckon :-) |
| 19:00 | chris | cruel and inhumane or something |
| 19:00 | rach | well unless they have been very bad :-) |
| 19:00 | rosa | :-))) |
| 19:02 | rach | did you just delete all those ones rosalie? |
| 19:02 | ah no I see | |
| 19:02 | rosa | which ones? |
| 19:03 | I've got country and language | |
| 19:03 | as categories | |
| 19:03 | rach | and thought the rest had gone, but it's not the case |
| 19:04 | rosa | keyword wouldn't be an authorised value |
| 19:05 | authorised value is the approved version of something - like the correct spelling and dates for a name | |
| 19:05 | rach | IANAL :-) |
| 19:05 | rosa | IANAL? |
| 19:05 | rach | I am not a librarian |
| 19:06 | usually i am not a lawyer | |
| 19:06 | rosa | wise |
| 19:06 | rach | um we were thinking of having keywords/subjects as an authority, for our document management bit |
| 19:06 | rosa | maybe I need to do the MARC thing myself. i must have been very bad in a pst life |
| 19:06 | rach | so we do that for LGNZ basically |
| 19:07 | rosa | There you go. I knew there was a quick and dirty way to do authority control |
| 19:07 | that didn't invole a thousand headings and who knows how many thousand subheadings | |
| 19:08 | rach | but you can do that if you want rosa :-) |
| 19:08 | rosa | the MARC training? |
| 19:08 | rach | no the hierachy of categories |
| 19:08 | http://koha.hlt.katipo.co.nz/c[…]dmin/authtypes.pl | |
| 19:09 | maybe we need to go to france rosa, and get training from paul :-) | |
| 19:10 | chris | you only need to go to ohio, in april and meet paul and the NPL there :-) |
| 19:12 | kados | chris: back? |
| 19:12 | chris | yep back in cold rainy wellington |
| 19:12 | kados | howdy! long time no read ;-) how was SF? |
| 19:13 | chris | i was in fullerton ... so im not sure :-) (down by LA) fullerton was good |
| 19:13 | kados | hehe |
| 19:13 | rach | :-) |
| 19:13 | hmm rosa just reading the marc cataloguing sales pitch "For a non-cataloguer who is adventurous enough to attend this | |
| 19:13 | workshop, you will leave with a better understanding of how cataloguing | |
| 19:13 | rules and MARC records work together to allow patrons to find the materials | |
| 19:13 | that we collect in our libraries." | |
| 19:14 | chris | on a serious note, i wouldnt mind going |
| 19:15 | i wonder how much it costs | |
| 19:15 | kados | is it in NZ? |
| 19:15 | rach | $540 including GST |
| 19:15 | yep it's in hamilton | |
| 19:15 | chris | or christchurch |
| 19:15 | rach | the most boring city in NZ :-) |
| 19:15 | kados | :-) |
| 19:15 | chris | id go to christchurch, rather than hamiltron |
| 19:16 | rach | true |
| 19:16 | see the famdamily | |
| 19:16 | chris | ahh 540 for both, or 180 for just MARC21 |
| 19:16 | i guess we'd need to join lianza too | |
| 19:17 | rach | we might get to wangle that |
| 19:17 | chris | well we are working on their membership database |
| 19:17 | wouldnt be hard :-) | |
| 19:17 | rach | we could add ourselves in :-) |
| 19:17 | chris | woo |
| 19:18 | it cost me 1499$nz return to LAX via sydney | |
| 19:18 | rach | it costs between $900 and $2000 NZ depending on what deals you can get |
| 19:19 | they were doing $999 to san fran last year | |
| 19:19 | chris | yep, i got that |
| 19:19 | if you can avoid LAX, id heartily recommend it | |
| 19:19 | rach | but it costs more to go at short notice usually |
| 19:19 | still sucks then chris? | |
| 19:19 | kados | yea ... |
| 19:19 | chris | yeah, all big airports suck |
| 19:20 | rach | later |
| 19:20 | kados | great to read you guys ... talk later ;-) |
| 19:20 | chris | cya later |
| 19:22 | rosa | sorry got called away |
| 19:23 | rach | almost like you're running a library rosa :-) |
| 19:23 | rosa | the library is an institutional member. Chris could go as an HLT person. loose affiliation not described |
| 19:23 | chris | ohh tricky |
| 19:24 | oh did I tell you rach, i fixed bernadettes copyright date problem, and 3 or for other glitches | |
| 19:24 | rosa | honorary temporary staff or summat |
| 19:24 | chris | (christchurch reminded me) |
| 19:26 | rach | yay thanks for that chris |
| 21:19 | rosa | we're back inbusiness |
| 23:29 | indradg | chris, hi |
| 23:29 | chris | heya indradg |
| 23:29 | indradg | around? |
| 23:29 | chris | yep |
| 23:30 | indradg | read the earlier transcript.... u said that u fixed the (c) problem that was being discussed on the list |
| 23:31 | chris | ahh this problem was just a template bug |
| 23:31 | indradg | i c |
| 23:31 | chris | the script was expecting an input with the name "copyrightdate" |
| 23:31 | the html was <input type="text" name="copyright"> | |
| 23:31 | indradg | so its not a shortcoming of the way Koha is managing the Marc tag for copyright |
| 23:32 | chris | nope, was purely that it was never actually being passed through to any of the subroutines |
| 23:32 | indradg | got it |
| 23:36 | chris | my first instinct is to always check the html::template files |
| 23:37 | its so easy to break things by changing input names, or accidentally deleting the wrong line etc | |
| 23:37 | indradg | yeah, so I learnt lately... after I managed to get over my perl aversion ;) |
| 23:37 | chris | :) |
| 23:39 | indradg | I have added a couple of fields to borrowers table for one of my installations.... 1) member's photo (standard passport sized mugshot) and 2) member's/authorised person (incase of inst member) signature |
| 23:40 | chris | ahh cool |
| 23:41 | indradg | I'm thinking of tweaking the barcode generator module to print out a bar-coded, photo_id library membership card |
| 23:41 | chris | that'd be pretty cool |
| 03:47 | paul | is rach around ? |
| 03:58 | rach | here |
| 03:59 | http://pure-guava.org.nz/album[…]3813_sm.sized.jpg | |
| 04:00 | my nephew - a regular linux baby :-) | |
| 04:00 | http://pure-guava.org.nz/galle[…]Tommy/IMG_3817_sm | |
| 04:00 | that ones nice | |
| 04:14 | paul | rach, about your chat with rosa & chris |
| 04:14 | my opinion is that the best solution would be to translate my kohadocs.org | |
| 04:14 | migrer_ses_donnees.xml | |
| 04:14 | (that is in french only, sorry not to be native english ;-) ) | |
| 05:05 | si | paul, are you still around? |
| 05:07 | paul | yep (11AM in France |
| 05:07 | ) | |
| 05:07 | si | |
| 05:08 | si | rachel was asking if you were about |
| 05:08 | she wants to chat | |
| 05:08 | but can't tear herself away from the tv :-) | |
| 05:08 | paul | she can come, i'm here |
| 05:09 | (working on z3950daemon) | |
| 05:18 | rach | hello |
| 05:19 | you're talking about our chat about authority files etc? | |
| 05:20 | I could probably get that translated by Regula maybe | |
| 05:22 | http://www.kohadocs.org/migrer_ses_donnees.xml | |
| 05:22 | that one? | |
| 05:52 | hdl | hello |
| 05:59 | paul | rach, you're right. |
| 05:59 | I was thinking to regula when writing this suggestion ;-) | |
| 05:59 | salut hdl | |
| 08:32 | indradg_ | hi anyone around? paul? |
| 08:32 | chris? kados? | |
| 10:10 | sylvain | hi all |
| 10:32 | hdl | hi |
| 11:21 | paul | sylvain ? |
| 11:21 | bonjour | |
| 11:22 | tu bosses sur quoi actuellement ? | |
| 11:22 | (pour le point de situation à l'ENSMP) | |
| 11:24 | sylvain | cette semaine j'ai pas trop fait de choses pour l'ENSMP |
| 11:25 | mon prochain truc ce sera les commandes depuis le réservoir | |
| 11:25 | et la semaine dernière j'ai fait la séparation des paramètres mais tu dois déjà l'avoir noté j'imagine | |
| 11:28 | indradg | paul, hi |
| 11:28 | paul | vivi. |
| 11:28 | indradg | ran into a problem while upgrading from Koha 2.0.0 to 2.2.0 |
| 11:28 | paul | ok, je note que tu bosses sur les commandes depuis le réservoir. Ca va pas être simple simple... |
| 11:28 | indradg, hello. | |
| 11:29 | indradg | paul, marc search frm Intranet as well as opac isnt working |
| 11:29 | paul | (on en parle si tu veux, mais demain, parce que vendredi je suis pas dispo, et lundi à la bib buffon pour une démo) |
| 11:29 | indradg | only ISBN search seems to be working |
| 11:29 | sylvain | demain je suis pas dispo ;) |
| 11:29 | retour à l'école ... | |
| 11:29 | ça sera la semaine prochaine, j'espère que d'ici la j'aurai avancé unpeu | |
| 11:29 | paul | indradg, do you change opac tempate to CSS and not default ? |
| 11:30 | indradg | on running koha.upgrade script i'm getting marc_word cannot open... table corrupt |
| 11:30 | paul | mmm... bad... did you try a mysqldump ? |
| 11:31 | (to dump & backup the DB) | |
| 11:31 | indradg | I did |
| 11:32 | but my backup (based on Koha 2.0.0) already has marc_word table corrupt... cannot read marc_word.MDY | |
| 11:32 | paul | so, your DB is corrupted & you must solve this problem. |
| 11:33 | indradg | however on rolling back to Koha 2.0.0.. clean 2.0.0 install and installing the db backup (even with the corrupt table) searches work |
| 11:34 | shouldn't the corruption of marc_word table affect Koha 2.0.0 search functionality? | |
| 11:36 | paul | no. |
| 11:36 | many changes in search between 2.0 and 2.2 | |
| 11:36 | indradg | ok |
| 11:42 | hdl | paul : dédoublonnage des authorités : cela suppose aussi de faire une procédure montrant TOUS les doublons ou non ? |
| 11:43 | paul | amha, dès lors qu'il y en a 1, il y a un pb. En tous cas, c'est comme ca que j'ai traité le pb puor les biblios |
| 11:44 | hdl | ok |
| 11:58 | kados | hi all |
| 11:59 | sylvain | hi and bye kados and all |
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