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| Time | Nick | Message |
|---|---|---|
| 11:04 | kados | hi all |
| 11:04 | paul: I'm taking a look at searching queries today and I'm wondering what's the difference between these: | |
| 11:05 | select distinct m1.bibid from marc_word as m1,marc_word as m2 where (m1.bibid=m2.bibid)and ((m1.word like 'block') and (m2.word like 'john')); | |
| 11:06 | select distinct m1.bibid from biblio,biblioitems,marc_biblio,marc_word as m1,marc_word as m2 where biblio.biblionumber=marc_biblio.biblionumber and biblio.biblionumber=biblioitems.biblionumber and m1.bibid=marc_biblio.bibid and (m1.bibid=m2.bibid) and ((m1.word like 'block')and (m2.word like 'john')) | |
| 11:06 | (in my tests, with NPL data they seem to be the same ... am I missing something?) | |
| 11:07 | paul | you're right, they are the same. Except when you add "order by biblioitems.isbn" for example |
| 11:07 | ('morning kados) | |
| 11:07 | kados | (evening paul ;-)) |
| 11:08 | ahh ... I see ... but I think the orderby is destroyed anyway | |
| 11:08 | paul | destroyed by who ? |
| 11:08 | NPL specific hack ? | |
| 11:09 | kados | I thought it was destroyed when the object was hashed |
| 11:11 | I think I'm wrong | |
| 11:11 | so I had a real nice sort process that really messes up perfs for searches with result sets | |
| 11:12 | it uses marc non-filing chars | |
| 11:12 | I'm thinking of adding a colum to marc_word for biblio.title | |
| 11:12 | (without the non-filing chars) | |
| 11:12 | strictly for sorting purposes | |
| 11:13 | so I can sort properly for English results (i.e., don't order by the articles a and the, etc.) | |
| 11:13 | does that sound like the best solution? | |
| 11:14 | it's too bad we can't make marc_word automatically sorted correctly | |
| 11:15 | that would maybe be another way to do it | |
| 11:27 | paul | kados... |
| 11:27 | the marc_word is huge enough not to have another column ! | |
| 11:28 | i will add in the future (2 months ? 3 ?) a hack to order correctly the titles. | |
| 11:28 | it will require a new column in biblio (let imagine biblio.Stitle, S being for "simplified") | |
| 11:29 | the Stitle being filled with articles removed at the beginning of the field. | |
| 11:29 | Also note that we should not expect too many perf improvements until we have marc_words. | |
| 11:30 | I made some tests on my biggest DB (45000 biblios, 2 950 000 lines in marc_word) | |
| 11:30 | with the marc_words, you have just 450 000 lines. | |
| 11:30 | You can test yourself the effect for NPL with the following query : | |
| 11:31 | select count(*), subfieldvalue,tag,subfieldcode from marc_word group by tag,subfieldcode,subfieldvalue | |
| 11:31 | & count how many lines you will have. | |
| 11:31 | I have some othe ideas to improve them more. | |
| 11:32 | like "removing word indexes" option in MARC setup. To avoid indexing useless fields/subfields (like the 1xx ones in UNIMARC, or some others) | |
| 11:37 | oups, my query does not work : | |
| 11:37 | select count(*), word,tagsubfield from marc_word group by tagsubfield,word | |
| 11:37 | is better | |
| 11:38 | kados | yea ... I've done that in the past and my result are similar |
| 11:38 | it will really speed up with marc_words | |
| 11:40 | paul do you have the book "high performance mysql"? | |
| 11:40 | paul | nope |
| 11:40 | do you think I should buy it ? | |
| 11:40 | kados | yes |
| 11:41 | http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/hpmysql/ | |
| 11:42 | (unless you already know all that stuff ;-)) | |
| 11:42 | it specifically addresses application design | |
| 11:42 | citing useing mysql in environments where the tables are several _billion_ rows | |
| 11:44 | paul | ok, i'm buying it now ;-) (even if it's in english only...) |
| 11:57 | hdl | paul: fais moi signe quand tu seras disponible |
| 11:58 | paul | ok, faut que je reboote, puis je te rappelle (je finis juste un mail) |
| 11:58 | hdl | ok. |
| 12:06 | kados | paul: i just sent you an email about marc non-filing chars in MARC21 |
| 12:13 | paul: i just sent you an email about marc non-filing chars in MARC21 (it may be useful for your upcoming sort feature) | |
| 12:13 | paul | yes, it's in my mailbox now |
| 17:07 | rach | morning |
| 17:09 | kados | hi rach |
| 17:11 | rach | how's the new site coming joshua? |
| 17:37 | hdl | hi rach |
| 18:11 | kados | rach: it's coming ;-) we've launched it at liblime.com but are waiting until the demos are done (and priv/terms) before we make an announcement |
| 18:11 | we should be adding our templates to Koha soon as well | |
| 19:30 | rosa | Hi anyone. is there a spanish language list for Koha? |
| 19:46 | michael | ... any french here ? |
| 19:46 | hi NZ and hi FRANCE ;-) | |
| 19:46 | and other too that i don't know country... | |
| 19:46 | rosa | hi michael |
| 19:47 | michael | hi rosa |
| 20:29 | ... | |
| 20:29 | ... | |
| 20:30 | i'm here if anyone want to tell something great (or even) stupid in French or English ;-) | |
| 20:54 | rach | hi |
| 20:54 | bonjour is about the extent of my french | |
| 20:54 | are you interested in Koha? | |
| 20:58 | michael | no pb... i wish paul was not already in bed but i'll wait or speak to him another day or night... no pb |
| 21:45 | hi... | |
| 21:45 | did anyone know how u can get invited to the IRC katipo chan ?? | |
| 21:58 | rach | hi |
| 21:58 | sorry what? | |
| 22:13 | michael | ... |
| 22:13 | hi rachel ! | |
| 22:13 | i just subscribe to the koha list and send a msg | |
| 22:14 | here's the end of this message (almost in french) | |
| 22:15 | the english part is : | |
| 22:15 | "Koha coming soon in bêta-test in a french library" in the subject and here in English : | |
| 22:15 | ################### ################### ################### | |
| 22:15 | Hi everyone Katipo and Koha team who doesn't read or understand french, | |
| 22:15 | this is for annoning that a new french library will install and test Koha | |
| 22:15 | this is a public library, about 170 000 items i think and 5 000 | |
| 22:15 | borrowers as far as i remenber | |
| 22:15 | is that possible te be added in the Koha map? i started all this stuff | |
| 22:15 | of installation, migration in the next two weeks. my name is Michaël | |
| 22:15 | Reichhard, i often go to chat on the IRC Channel | |
| 22:15 | Here's what you can put on the Koha Map in Europe | |
| 22:15 | http://koha.org/about/map/europe.html | |
| 22:15 | Organisation: Médiathèque | |
| 22:15 | Version: Koha 2.2.1 | |
| 22:15 | Library Type: Public Library | |
| 22:15 | Location: Meudon, France | |
| 22:15 | Contact: Michaël Reichhard (mreichhardgmail.com) |
|
| 22:15 | Description: Bêta-test to show how Koha could be a solution for a | |
| 22:15 | future migration of our old integrated library system | |
| 22:15 | sorry, it's late here (00h28) and i'm not enough good to translate the | |
| 22:15 | complete message. but i think Paul and i will give you more | |
| 22:15 | explanations in the next few days and weeks. | |
| 22:15 | Long live to open source and koha in particular ;-) | |
| 22:15 | Freely, | |
| 22:15 | -- | |
| 22:15 | Michaël | |
| 22:15 | ################### ################### ################### | |
| 22:15 | no joke i swear ;-) | |
| 23:18 | rach | hi michael, sounds good |
| 23:18 | if you're in france isn't it the middle of the night? | |
| 23:19 | michael | ... i hope so... i'll probably be more active in the diffrent ML |
| 23:19 | yes.. it's 3h22... always... as Albert Einstein says : "I don't sleep much. But i sleep fast" | |
| 23:19 | rach | :-) |
| 23:19 | michael | "Je ne dors pas longtemps. Mais je dors vite" Albert Einstein |
| 23:20 | rach | paul keeps a bit more regular hours |
| 23:20 | so you wont catch him here at this time of day | |
| 23:22 | that sounds like good news about your public library :-) | |
| 23:22 | do you work for them, or are you a contractor? | |
| 23:26 | michael | yes, thanx |
| 23:27 | i work in THIS public library... 39h/semaine... anyone understand french in katipo.. if the case, i could send you the whole message in french.. | |
| 23:28 | rach | ah no I don't think we do really I'm sorry |
| 23:31 | michael | no pb... wll go to sleep soon... do you know when Paul go to Nelsonville, Ohio... did i dreamt or read this somewhere ??? |
| 23:34 | i got this when i post to the list : Your mail to 'Koha' with the subject | |
| 23:34 | Koha bient?t en b?ta-test dans une m?diath?que municipale du 92 / | |
| 23:34 | Koha coming soon in b?ta-test in a french library | |
| 23:34 | Is being held until the list moderator can review it for approval. | |
| 23:34 | The reason it is being held: | |
| 23:34 | Too many recipients to the message | |
| 23:37 | bye... see you next time;.. | |
| 23:37 | at another hour maybe... | |
| 23:45 | rach | I think in may |
| 01:18 | anyone about? where do you find sub branches/locations | |
| 01:19 | I thought we had those, or am I dreaming? | |
| 01:49 | rosa | we have real and virtual branches |
| 10:22 | sylvain | hi all |
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