IRC log for #koha, 2004-12-18

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12:09 kados hi everyone
12:10 thanks for fixing those bugs paul
12:10 our title and author search are working now
12:10 paul hello joshua
12:10 nice
12:11 kados here is a link to "Koha Suggest" :-) :
12:11 https://opac.athenscounty.lib.oh.us/
12:11 it's still an infant :-)
12:12 it only works for single words sofar
12:12 but I've got plans for it
12:13 hehe ... type a partial word in the search box
12:13 paul & clic "start search" ?
12:14 kados no... you need javascript enabled
12:14 paul ok, i understand now.
12:14 kados it should offer suggestions just like "Google Suggest"
12:14 :-)
12:14 paul it's just that there are only few words in the db for instance ;-)
12:15 kados well 260,000 or so english words
12:15 :-)
12:15 paul ...
12:15 kados I'm working on a version that uses soundex
12:15 paul if i type "medi", (thinking medium), nothing appear
12:15 konqueror test. will try FF
12:16 kados right now it only shows words that are in our marc_word table
12:16 (I did a select distinct from marc_word to build the table)
12:16 paul if i type "harr" (thinking harry), nothing happends too
12:16 kados BTW paul: we have 5,000,000 entries in marc_word ... and only 260,000 distinct entries
12:17 strange ... I get some suggestions for harr
12:17 paul yep, good news : that means the marc_words table will be 260 000 entries long...
12:17 kados great!
12:17 but some words appear 10,000 times or more
12:17 paul (not exactly, as it will have to have 1 different line for each tag/subfield/word)
12:17 kados ahh
12:18 you still don't get suggestions for harr paul?
12:18 paul yes, i get : just need to wait 2-3 seconds.
12:19 kados right ...
12:19 paul (quite slow. is it a internet pb ?)
12:19 kados I'll need to optimize things a bit
12:19 paul this is a killing feature.
12:19 really !
12:19 kados hehe wait till I get soundex going ;-)
12:19 it's good for patron searches too
12:19 paul & does not work on konqueror
12:20 kados :-(
12:20 do you get any javascript errors?
12:55 jmlongo hey... this feature is indeed a killing one!
12:56 I've just tested it with mozilla...  
12:56 a little slow... but great
12:56 kados yea it's pretty slow
12:57 I'm sure there's a better way to optimize it but I haven't taken a look yet
13:00 jmlongo and you can see how many results you're gonna have....  sweet! :)
17:00 kados hi everyone
17:00 spellcheck is running now but I'm not really happy with how it works:
17:00 chris dont you ever sleep kados?
17:01 kados https://opac.athenscounty.lib.[…]koha/opac-main.pl
17:01 not lately ;-)
17:01 the soundex in mysql isn't as good as I'd hoped ... and it's pretty slow
17:01 chris i was quite happy how my test was working
17:02 but i wasnt using the marc tables
17:02 kados or maybe my query is wrong
17:02 SELECT word,count FROM word WHERE strcmp(soundex(word), soundex(?)) = 0 order by soundex(word) limit 0,20
17:02 what were you using chris?
17:02 chris biblio.title
17:02 kados I made a table that has one instance of every word in marc_word
17:02 chris do a search
17:02 kados ahh
17:02 chris if you get no results
17:02 do a soundex against biblio.title
17:02 and suggest some alternatives
17:03 kados cool ... I like it ...
17:03 I need to tweak this data quite a bit
17:03 chris i only had it working for title .. just as a proof of concept really
17:03 kados we've got lots of bogus entries that I can't think would be useful
17:03 but you never know
17:03 chris right thats screenshots done for martin
17:04 kados screenshot of what?
17:04 who's martin?
17:04 ;-)
17:04 chris :)
17:04 mail on the koha and koha-devel list
17:04 kados ahh
17:04 chris martin longo
17:04 and screenshots of issuing/printing slips
17:20 hi angela
17:22 whoops
20:21 kados chris around?
20:21 chris yep
20:21 kados I"m trying to figure out how opac-search.pl and opac-searchresults.pl interact
20:21 chris afaik opac-search.pl just prints the advance search page
20:22 and opac-searchresults does the search and prints the resutls
20:22 kados I've tried to create a new template variable for opac-searchresults.tmpl that is an array of all the 'value's of the search
20:22 so that can be displayed at the top of the screen (searchdesc isn't really that pretty)
20:23 chris k
20:23 kados the strange thing is that I never see opac-searchresults.pl at the top of the page
20:23 I get something like this:
20:23 https://opac.athenscounty.lib.[…]lue=cryptonomicon
20:23 as the results page url
20:23 chris hmm maybe paul has rewritten it
20:24 so that opac-search does both
20:24 kados hmmm ...
20:24 that would explain it ;-)
20:24 huh ... I removed opac-searchresults and it still works hehe
20:25 that's a pretty good indication
20:25 that it's not needed :-)
20:25 chris im of 2 opinions with that
20:26 actually i guess i dont mind as long as its still using 2 separate templates
20:26 kados I'm pretty sure it is
20:28 so in opac-search.pl I've got:
20:28 my @values = $query->param('value');
20:28 my $valuearray = \@values;
20:28 $template->param(VALUES => $valuearray);
20:28 and ...
20:29 in opac-searchresults.tmpl I've got:
20:29 <!-- TMPL_LOOP NAME="VALUES" -->
20:29      <!-- TMPL_VAR NAME="value" -->
20:29        <!-- /TMPL_LOOP -->
20:29 am I missing something?
20:29 chris yep
20:30 kados I guess I should just skip the $valuearray ref and just use \@value in the template param
20:30 chris tmpl_loop wants a ref to an array of hashes
20:30 kados ok ... lemme try
20:30 chris ure giving it a ref to an array
20:31 kados my @values = ('value' => $query->param('value'),)
20:31 how's that?
20:31 chris hmmm
20:32 really u need to build a hash, then push that hash into the array
20:32 kados ok ... lemme try again ;-)
20:32 chris well a ref to it
20:32 thats pretty close actually
20:32 my @values = \('value' => $query->param('value'),)
20:33 hmm nope
20:33 that wont work
20:34 actually its probably just easier to do
20:34 my $value=$query->param('value');
20:35 $tmpl_obj->param(value => $value);
20:35 and not bother with the loop
20:35 kados but there are multiple values for most searchs
20:35 chris yep
20:35 kados ahh I see
20:36 chris they arent all gonna be called value tho are they
20:36 kados hmmm, I guess I thought they were
20:36 chris there must be some way that koha knows if its a title search or a keyword or an author
20:36 kados ahh you're right ... it's value=neal+stephenson
20:37 there's that too
20:39 chris basically loops are good if you have lots of items of the same structure
20:39 eg search results
20:40 the you give it an array of search results, each of which is a ref to a hash
20:40 which all have the same structure
20:40 kados right
20:40 chris but essentially with the search criteria
20:40 kados I did that with my opac-detail.pl modifs
20:40 with a foreach loop
20:41 chris we have 1 hash worth of data
20:41 kados so it's not worth it
20:41 chris yeah
20:41 kados I've got it working now
20:41 chris it saves typing
20:41 kados the value variable is passed to the template fine with a space inbetween each value
20:41 chris but is perhaps an unnessecary obfusctication
20:41 kados now I'm going to start inserting that value into a table for each successful search
20:42 chris cool
20:42 kados actaully I want to insert it regardless --
20:42 chris yep and just set a switch if its successful
20:42 kados yep
20:42 this is exciting!
20:42 :-)
20:46 create table searchterms (terms varchar(255) NOT NULL default '', success int(1) NOT NULL default '0', resultcount bigint(20) NOT NULL default '0', KEY xxterms(terms), KEY xsuccess(success), KEY xresultcount(resultcount));
20:47 that should do it eh? do we need to keep track of anything else?
20:48 chris we could be tricky
20:48 kados actually i guess we don't even need success ... resultcount =0 means no success
20:48 chris yep
20:48 we could store the ipaddress
20:48 kados hehe good idea
20:48 chris then u could see what opac machine is used the most
20:48 kados yep ...
20:49 how do I delete a column?
20:49 alter table?
20:49 chris yep
21:08 kados ok it's working ... all searches are being logged
21:08 is there some way to consolidate the searches so that searches for the same phrase only show up once?
21:08 in the database
21:08 chris yep
21:09 altho you lose the ipnumber bit then
21:09 kados hmmm ... that's right .. .nevermind
21:09 chris you can do a select .. if it exists, update, if it doenst insert
21:09 kados I'll just use a seperate table and update it every hour or so
21:09 chris yeah that would be better
21:09 kados I didn't do the ip thingy yet (just put one value in )
21:10 is there an easy way to get that?
21:10 that you know of?
21:10 chris yep using cgi
21:11 assuming $cgi is an object of type CGIl
21:11 CGI; even
21:11 kados :-)
21:11 chris then my $ip=$cgi->remote_host();
21:13 kados sweet it's working!
21:16 damn ... it broke
21:16 hehe
21:24 it'd be kind of cool to have a central datbase for all koha servers to connect to and store this data ;-)
21:24 we could get a world-wide list going
21:24 hehe
21:24 organized by language perhaps
21:24 chris that would be kinda cool
21:30 kados chris I'm getting a
21:30 DBI connect('suggest:66.213.78.69','auth',...) failed: Can't connect to MySQL server on '66.213.78.69' (113) at /usr/local/koha/opac/cgi-bin/opac-search.pl line 86
21:30 and I did a
21:30 grant all privileges on *.* to auth@"host78-077.athenscounty.lib.oh.us" identified by
21:30 I used the IP address for that host too
21:31 any other reason you can think of for why that's failing?
21:31 chris whats the db table say?
21:31 mysql -uroot -ppassword mysql
21:31 select * from db;
21:31 whats the host there say?
21:31 if its localhost
21:31 kados strange it's not showing that user
21:32 chris that'd do it
21:32 select * from user;
21:32 is it in there?
21:32 kados yea it's in user
21:33 so db is used for remote connections?
21:33 chris no, thats for allowing access to dbs
21:33 you can have a user that can connect to mysql
21:33 but has no rights in any dbs
21:33 which i think youve accidentally set up :)
21:34 kados strange since that 's the same user I'm using on the localhost and it's working fine
21:34 chris hmm
21:34 i dont know much about grant syntax
21:34 did you do a mysqladmin reload
21:34 kados yep
21:35 chris i always just insert rows into the user and db tables
21:35 kados I seem to remember a skip_networking somewhere in the conf file
21:35 chris cos i started before the grant command existed
21:35 kados but I can't find the conf file anywhere :-)
21:35 chris /etc/mysql/my.conf
21:35 usually
21:35 kados right
21:36 that's just got
21:36 [mysqld]
21:36 datadir=/var/lib/mysql
21:36 socket=/var/lib/mysql/mysql.sock
21:36 [mysql.server]
21:36 user=mysql
21:36 basedir=/var/lib
21:36 [safe_mysqld]
21:36 err-log=/var/log/mysqld.log
21:36 pid-file=/var/run/mysqld/mysqld.pid
21:36 chris this is ur production machine?
21:36 didnt u tweak the conf on it?
21:36 kados nope this is the new machine
21:37 chris ahh
21:37 kados it's running fedora core 3
21:37 chris heres a trick
21:37 from a machine other than it
21:38 telnet address 3306
21:38 that should at least tell ya if its listening on the network
21:38 or even
21:38 telnet localhost 3306
21:39 kados Connected to localhost.localdomain (127.0.0.1).
21:39 Escape character is '^]'.
21:39 NHost 'localhost.localdomain' is not allowed to connect to this MySQL serverConnection closed by foreign host.
21:39 so it's listening eh?
21:39 hmmm ...
21:39 chris yep so thats not the problem
21:41 kados hmmm actually from another host I get:
21:41 koha:/build/koha/opac# telnet 66.213.78.69 3306
21:41 Trying 66.213.78.69...
21:41 telnet: Unable to connect to remote host: No route to host
21:41 so maybe that is the problem
21:41 chris firewall
21:42 kados ahh
21:42 that must be it
21:42 chris can u just poke a hole in it for 3306 ?
21:42 from certain ips, would be even better
21:44 kados yep that was it
21:44 yea I just wanted to test it -- my iptables isn't that good yet
21:44 chris :)
21:44 kados I'll write the rule now
21:44 chris do you use shorewall?
21:44 kados no ...
21:44 chris sometime when u have some free time might be worth having a read
21:44 kados cool
21:45 iptables made easy
21:45 chris it makes manipulating iptables a lot more pleasant
21:45 kados hehe
21:46 it's working:
21:46 | neal stephenson |           4 | 66.213.78.0  |
21:46 | neal stephenson |           8 | 66.213.78.0  |
21:46 | neal stephenson |           8 | 69.58.13.236 |
21:46 | neal gaiman     |           0 | 69.58.13.236 |
21:46 chris cool
04:13 kados chris around?
04:14 I'm trying to get a timestamp in the database too ... but I can't find a cgi timestamp
04:17 ahh I see ... timestamp is handled by mysql
09:49 paulAway ca s'en va et ca revient...

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