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| Time | Nick | Message |
|---|---|---|
| 18:03 | kados | chris around yet? |
| 18:03 | chris | staff meeting joshua, be with ya later tho |
| 18:04 | kados | cool ... |
| 18:04 | rach | yep |
| 18:05 | kados | sweet |
| 20:14 | any particular reason this form won't work: | |
| 20:14 | <form method="Post" action="/cgi-bin/koha/opac-detail.pl?bib=<!-- TMPL_VAR NAME="biblionumber" -->"> | |
| 20:14 | <input type="submit" value="Details" /></form> | |
| 20:15 | it spits me back to the opac-search.pl page | |
| 20:18 | chris | got a </form> ? |
| 20:18 | and its not inside another form? | |
| 20:28 | kados | hmmm ... this is really strange. it works for some items but those items don't have any item information when they display ... and no holdings information either |
| 20:29 | http://66.213.78.101/cgi-bin/koha/opac-search.pl | |
| 20:29 | search on "a series of unfortunate" | |
| 20:29 | click on "Details" | |
| 20:29 | http://66.213.78.101/cgi-bin/k[…]tail.pl?bib=48240 | |
| 20:30 | maybe I'm missing my tmpl_loop somewhere along the line (using incs can be confusing) | |
| 20:33 | chris | hmm no its somehting more weird |
| 20:33 | ie if i click details | |
| 20:33 | i get to the right page | |
| 20:33 | stuff doesnt show | |
| 20:33 | but if i hit reload, it does | |
| 20:33 | you're not doing something fancy with javascript or something are u? | |
| 20:34 | kados | yep |
| 20:34 | oh ... no I don't think so | |
| 20:34 | chris | ie if i type in http://66.213.78.101/cgi-bin/k[…]tail.pl?bib=48240 the page shows fine |
| 20:34 | kados | right |
| 20:34 | chris | but if i get there from the search it doesnt |
| 20:34 | kados | weird eh? |
| 20:41 | chris | ohhhh |
| 20:41 | perfectly simple | |
| 20:41 | ur doing a post right | |
| 20:41 | kados | right |
| 20:42 | chris | but ur crafting the url like it was a get |
| 20:42 | kados | ahh ... so what's the right syntax? |
| 20:42 | chris | so ur not actually passing the biblio number through at all |
| 20:42 | <form method=post action=/cgi-bin/koha/opac-detail.pl> | |
| 20:42 | kados | I don't think it works at all as a get |
| 20:43 | chris | <input type=hidden name=bib value=something> |
| 20:43 | ie, actually pass the info thru :) | |
| 20:44 | or you could go <a href=/cgi-bin/koha/opac-detail.pl?bib=something>Details</a> | |
| 20:44 | but you dont put the ?variable=something in the action of a form | |
| 20:46 | that make sense? | |
| 20:46 | kados | yep |
| 20:46 | thanks | |
| 21:06 | ok ... it's working ... only complaint is that the "value" field is also the field that's displayed ... instead of "Details" it now has the biblionumber | |
| 21:07 | chris | thats why i suggested a hidden input |
| 21:07 | and keep ur submit as it was :) | |
| 21:08 | kados | ahh :-) |
| 21:10 | hmmm it is hidden | |
| 21:10 | <form method="POST" action="/cgi-bin/koha/opac-detail.pl?"> | |
| 21:10 | <input type="submit" type=hidden name=bib value=<!-- TMPL_VAR NAME="biblionumber" --> title="details" /> | |
| 21:10 | </form> | |
| 21:12 | chris | type="submit" type=hidden |
| 21:13 | id do | |
| 21:13 | <form method="POST" action="/cgi-bin/koha/opac-detail.pl"> | |
| 21:13 | no ? | |
| 21:13 | and <input type=hidden name=bib value=<!-- TMPL_VAR | |
| 21:13 | NAME="biblionumber" --> title="details" /> | |
| 21:13 | then <input type=submit value=Details> | |
| 21:13 | </form> | |
| 21:14 | kados | ahh |
| 21:15 | hmmm now I get two buttons | |
| 21:15 | ahh ive got an extra type | |
| 21:15 | chris | yep |
| 21:15 | kados | thanks chris! |
| 21:15 | chris | no worries |
| 21:16 | kados | (what do you think of the templates ?) |
| 21:16 | chris | its nice |
| 21:16 | not gonna get in trouble with cincinatti? | |
| 21:16 | kados | well I'm mostly doing it to learn the templating |
| 21:16 | chris | right |
| 21:16 | kados | I"m thinking of releasing them annonomously tho as a proof of concept for Koha |
| 21:17 | (the're paying $70 annual license for sirci) | |
| 21:17 | $70K that is :-) | |
| 21:17 | chris | eeek |
| 21:17 | thats madness | |
| 21:17 | kados | yup |
| 21:17 | chris | u could hire me twice fulltime for that hehe |
| 21:17 | kados | hehe |
| 21:18 | chris | well one and a half anyway |
| 21:18 | id go mental | |
| 21:18 | kados | hehe |
| 21:18 | chris | id give it a month |
| 21:18 | :) | |
| 21:18 | kados | :-) |
| 21:18 | chris | 70k a year is a lot of books |
| 21:19 | cool | |
| 21:19 | kados | as a subscription service or annual support service |
| 21:19 | chris | right |
| 21:20 | i think selling ppl an annual support contract, would actually make koha more attractive | |
| 21:20 | in a weird way | |
| 21:20 | ie, ppl still have the idea that if its free its gonna be crap | |
| 21:20 | rosa | I agree with you (having missed the rest of the conversation |
| 21:20 | chris | joshua was saying he was investigating the possibility of marketing koha professionally |
| 21:21 | support contracts = piece of mind | |
| 21:21 | peace even :) | |
| 21:21 | kados | yea that's what I'm thinking |
| 21:21 | chris | a koha appliance |
| 21:21 | kados | I'm really sick of library admins saying Koha isn't viable cause it's free |
| 21:21 | so might as well charge for it :-)_ | |
| 21:22 | chris | ie, you rock in with a box, koha installed, plug it in and they pay you to maintain said box |
| 21:22 | kados | yep |
| 21:22 | or just have lots of bandwidth and a server farm using ssl | |
| 21:22 | chris | could even do fancy case mods and make it look pretty :) |
| 21:22 | theres something comforting about a machine in your machine room though :) | |
| 21:23 | but yep, you could offer lots of options | |
| 21:23 | kados | yea ... though for me it's much easier to troubleshoot from my living room :-) |
| 21:23 | chris | well, u make them make a ssh tunnel thru the firewall for you ;) |
| 21:24 | i havent had to drive to levin to mess with HLT's koha ... hmm in a long long time | |
| 21:24 | kados | hehe |
| 21:25 | chris | we (katipo) host a couple of Koha installs for people |
| 21:25 | kados | does opening a ssh tunnel generally meet with resistance? |
| 21:25 | chris | depends on the clue of the network/sys admin |
| 21:25 | kados | I guess it does open things up for a man-in-the-middle |
| 21:25 | chris | if they are knowledgeable, not usually |
| 21:25 | kados | but I'd think spoofing a thrid-party ssl would be pretty tough |
| 21:26 | chris | its a tradeoff |
| 21:26 | like all security is | |
| 21:27 | certainly we couldnt do what we do without ssh | |
| 21:27 | well not for the price's we charge | |
| 21:28 | ie if i had to physically be in front of clients machines .. id spend all day driving | |
| 21:28 | kados | right |
| 21:28 | that'd really suck | |
| 21:29 | chris | most ppl are pretty calm about ssh from a certain ip |
| 21:29 | kados | I'm really bad with directions so half the time I get lost |
| 21:29 | chris | heh |
| 21:30 | kados | what kind of bandwidth do you think a remote Koha install would require on my end ... think 512K would do? |
| 21:30 | chris | it'll depend entirely on how many ppl want to use it at once |
| 21:31 | 512K could get eaten quite fast if you had a few opac users and a few librarians at once | |
| 22:18 | kados | sweet |
| 22:18 | so that's the CGI module, right? | |
| 22:18 | or is it HTML::Template? | |
| 22:19 | chris | i think HTML::Template |
| 22:32 | kados | chris I've been wondering this for years ... I thought I saw you (when you visited) purge your mutt account of deleted messages without exiting ... was that a brain fart? |
| 22:32 | I've searched high and low with no results :-) | |
| 22:35 | chris | nope |
| 22:35 | $ | |
| 22:35 | shift-4 | |
| 22:35 | try that | |
| 22:36 | its good to do it occasionally even if you dont have deleted messages | |
| 22:37 | cos it will commit changes, ie the messages u already read, wont show up as new when u restart if it crashes or ur screen crashes or something | |
| 22:37 | kados | ahh |
| 22:37 | cool thanks | |
| 22:37 | chris | no worries |
| 22:38 | kados | :-) |
| 22:39 | chris | nice |
| 22:39 | this isnt koha stuff, i think 8 mins is my record for a remote koha install | |
| 06:18 | JYL57 | Hello ! |
| 06:18 | Paul available ?! | |
| 08:09 | GenjiBed | hiya paul.. how do i get into koha's cvs? i got a cvs client now, and i feel motivated. |
| 08:46 | JYL57 | paul ?! |
| 09:54 | Paul, chris, Genji, someone ?! | |
| 09:54 | paul | oui, je suis là |
| 09:54 | bonjour jean yves | |
| 09:54 | JYL57 | Ok Paul |
| 09:54 | t'as 5 mn | |
| 09:55 | paul | zyva, pose ta question, on verra |
| 09:55 | JYL57 | fines2.pl bug chez moi |
| 09:55 | paul | je l'ai pas testé depuis longtemps. |
| 09:55 | possible qu'il soit incompatible avec la v2.2 | |
| 09:56 | mets un bug sur bugs.koha.org, je regarderai dès quepossible | |
| 09:56 | JYL57 | C'est dommage ! Comment je fais avec mes amendes ?! |
| 09:56 | paul | mmm... en fait, c'est même plus que possible |
| 09:56 | JYL57 | Il y en a déjà 1 : 756 de mémoire |
| 09:56 | paul | les amendes sont dans issuingrules maintenant, plus dans jesaisplusou |
| 09:57 | regarde dans le code et remplace jesaisplusou par issuingrules | |
| 09:57 | JYL57 | Oui, mais quel job dois-je mettre dans la cron table ?! |
| 09:57 | Ok, je modifie chez moi le fines.pl alors ! | |
| 09:57 | paul | par exemple |
| 09:57 | et si ca marche, tu me l'envoies je le commiterai | |
| 09:58 | JYL57 | ok, mais comment font les autres ?! pas d'amendes en cours pour personne alors... |
| 10:40 | paul | JYL57, ceux qui sont en 2.2 en france ne font pas d'amende, effectivement |
| 10:41 | (l'EMN en fait, puisque les 2 autres, Dombes et Sorbonne ne font pas de prêt, donc pas d'amende ;-) ) | |
| 10:45 | JYL57 | Ok, je joue avec fines & fines2 et t'envoie quelque chose... |
| 10:46 | Il n'y a donc personne qui utilise 2.2 avec amendes, même hors france ?! | |
| 10:57 | paul | (mais sur ce point, il y a pas mal de bibs qui ont développé des "trucs locaux") |
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