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| Time | Nick | Message |
|---|---|---|
| 13:06 | paul | Hi american friends that are on irc now |
| 13:07 | owen | Hi |
| 13:11 | Paul can I ask you a question about serials? | |
| 13:12 | paul | yes. |
| 13:12 | owen | I'm confused about the numbering calculation |
| 13:12 | The help file says to use this kind of formula: N°{X}/{Y} | |
| 13:14 | paul | yes, and ? |
| 13:14 | owen | ...I guess I just don't understand! |
| 13:14 | paul | when you recieve an item, it usually has a number. |
| 13:15 | owen | Yes, like 'Volume 3, Number 10' |
| 13:15 | paul | for example, the actual linuxjournal is the #127 |
| 13:16 | yes. so, what is your problem ? | |
| 13:16 | owen | When you're adding a subscription, how do you fill out the 'numbering calculation' form? |
| 13:16 | How does the numbering formula work? | |
| 13:17 | paul | {X} will be replaced by the number calculated from the 1st row of the table just under the formula |
| 13:17 | for example : | |
| 13:17 | Number {X} | |
| 13:17 | is the formula | |
| 13:17 | X being : | |
| 13:18 | Add 1 once every 1. When more than 99999 set back to 1 Begins with 127 | |
| 13:18 | will create Number 127, 1st, then Number 128,... | |
| 13:18 | You can create formulaes as complex as Number {X}-{Y} volume {Z} (with 3 variables changing independantly) | |
| 13:19 | owen | I see, and the {Y} and {Z} could be for Volumes and Years |
| 13:19 | paul | yep. |
| 13:20 | owen | How should I fill in the box labeled 'numbering formula' ? |
| 13:20 | paul | You enter what you want and it's taken as you enter it. |
| 13:20 | {X} {Y} and {Z} are replaced by calculated number. | |
| 13:20 | the rest is kept as you enter it. | |
| 13:21 | So "Volume {Y} Number {X}, year {Z} " | |
| 13:21 | will give "Volume 1 Number 123, year 2004" | |
| 13:21 | (for example) | |
| 13:22 | owen | I see, so I should type out 'Volume {Y} Number {X}, year {Z}' in that numbering formula box so that when issues are added the volume information is displayed correctly. |
| 13:22 | paul | yes |
| 13:23 | owen | Great. That makes sense now. I'm upgrading the NPL templates, and I've been trying to get to know the new features. |
| 13:23 | paul | feel free to update online help if you find a better manner to explain ;-) |
| 13:27 | owen | One other question: Under 'subscription length' it asks you to specify 'number of num'. Does that mean the number of issues in the subscription? |
| 13:27 | paul | yes |
| 13:27 | (I correct the template immediatly) | |
| 13:27 | owen | And do you only need to enter information for one of those three? (issues, weeks, or months?) |
| 13:28 | paul | yes |
| 13:29 | owen | I see now that your online help could have answered that last question! I didn't see it. |
| 13:29 | paul | template change commited |
| 13:38 | owen | Hi tim |
| 13:40 | tim | Hi owen |
| 14:16 | shedges | hello, all |
| 14:16 | owen | Hi Stephen |
| 14:24 | paul | hi shedges & tim |
| 14:24 | shedges | hi paul |
| 14:25 | paul | owen / shedges : did I ask you to send me your marc parameters tables updated to 2.2 ? |
| 14:25 | I don't remember... | |
| 14:25 | shedges | owen, do we have them yet? |
| 14:26 | paul | (2.1.3 in fact, of course, 2.2 is not officially available) |
| 14:26 | it's for the installer. I must update the official MARC21 default table. | |
| 14:26 | I remember asking for authorities MARC DB | |
| 14:27 | & I also remember stephen sended it to me | |
| 14:27 | shedges | yeah,that's on sourceforge |
| 14:27 | paul | (was it stephen ? not sure) |
| 14:27 | owen | 101 is updated from CVS. I'm not sure what has changed in the parameters though |
| 14:28 | shedges | (Paul, I wan't to change the copyright language a little on the doc I sent you, use GNU FDL. I send a new version for you to approve.) |
| 14:29 | tim | hi shedges, paul, everyone else I missed. |
| 14:29 | shedges | I haven't changed anything on 101, haven't really looked at it yet. |
| 14:34 | paul | back |
| 14:34 | owen & shedges : what I need is an updated version of the mysqldump -c koha marc_tag_structure marc_subfield_structure. | |
| 14:35 | the -c being to get field name | |
| 14:35 | A fresh dump should help having a better default marc21 structure. | |
| 14:36 | shedges | I'll edit the current tables (in a couple of days, I'm gone to a meeting for a while) then do a fresh dump |
| 14:36 | paul | ok, nice, thanks |
| 14:37 | in france 48 hours before an election, it's forbidden for the ppl wanting to be elected to speak | |
| 14:37 | and forbidden to publish new stats | |
| 14:38 | so, it's quite ;-) | |
| 14:38 | shedges | good rule! Bush voted this morning in Texas, then came to Ohio to campaign some more |
| 14:38 | owen | I wish polls were forbidden here as well. I especially wish that exit polling was forbidden. |
| 14:38 | shedges | here, here! |
| 14:38 | or is that hear!, hear! | |
| 14:39 | owen | I don't know if anyone even knows! |
| 14:39 | paul | exit polling are ok here in france, but can be announced only 1 second after the last voting place closes ! |
| 14:39 | owen | That sounds like a good rule |
| 14:39 | paul | so, 8PM usually, because Paris/Marseille/Lyons usually closes at 8PM |
| 14:40 | other small cities closing at 7PM, or 6PM | |
| 14:41 | shedges | we have to wait until the polls in California close, i think at 10:00 pm our time |
| 14:42 | paul | note, to continue on this subject, that in France, your vote method seems really strange. |
| 14:42 | electors vote by states, to elect "big electors", | |
| 14:42 | that have elect the president. | |
| 14:42 | quite strange for us, that elect the president directly. | |
| 14:43 | shedges | yeah, we think it's strange, too -- we assumed we got it from the French ;-) |
| 14:43 | paul | in France we used this system in the 4th republic. |
| 14:43 | shedges | (that's where we got it, then!) |
| 14:43 | paul | (3rd, sorry) |
| 14:44 | de Gaulle changed it because the parlment & french president was too unstable | |
| 14:44 | because we don't have only 2 major party. | |
| 14:48 | shedges | it would be nice to change our system -- but that will _never_ happen |
| 14:48 | paul | why ? because it's in your constitution ? |
| 14:48 | (not sure constitution is the english word) | |
| 14:48 | (it's the french one at least ;-) ) | |
| 14:49 | shedges | no, just because it's a "sacred" American tradition |
| 14:49 | even though the reasons for the original system are no longer valid | |
| 14:49 | (lots of ways to cheat in the early days) | |
| 14:49 | paul | and it will survive 2000 and (i don't hope) 2004 days after the election ? |
| 14:50 | shedges | (also the Foundaing Fathers were all elitists) |
| 14:50 | paul | because it's something that makes laugh... |
| 14:50 | owen | You're justified in being an elitist if you're Thomas Jefferson. |
| 14:50 | paul | (/me means laugh, but in french "yellow laugh" means laugh, but is not really happy) |
| 14:51 | shedges | Rachel should be here -- she knows more American history than Americans do! |
| 14:57 | paul | look http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/F[…]h_Fourth_Republic and http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Third_Republic |
| 14:58 | to learn a little bit more on our republic history ;-) | |
| 14:58 | (wikipedia is the best ...) |
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