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| Time | Nick | Message |
|---|---|---|
| 15:53 | kados | msg owen |
| 15:53 | hehe | |
| 15:53 | oops | |
| 15:53 | owen | Well, you got my attention anyway! |
| 15:53 | kados | yea I hit enter by mistake |
| 15:54 | I think I finally finished writing emails for the OLC annual | |
| 15:54 | sheesh | |
| 15:54 | that took all day | |
| 15:55 | owen | I've been working on slides (yes, in CSS!). The hardest part is judging how long the talk will take. I don't know if I've got too little or too much. |
| 15:57 | rach | joshua how did your talk go? |
| 16:04 | owen | We're both giving talks next week. |
| 16:04 | Joshua's also involved with the planning and preparation, so he's got even more to think about. | |
| 16:05 | chris | gonna have a webcam so we can all watch? :-) |
| 16:06 | owen | that'd be a little too technologically-advanced for this facility. They want to charge $100 per day per conference room for internet access! |
| 16:06 | chris | ack |
| 16:06 | ohh i remember they wanted to charge us the last time too .. same crowd? | |
| 16:07 | owen | Well, it's the hotel that's doing the charging, and though it's in a different city, I think it's the same hotel--Hilton. |
| 16:07 | chris | right |
| 16:08 | owen | I can't believe they can get away with it. |
| 16:08 | chris | yeah thats really steep |
| 16:09 | owen | The libraries should set up some guerilla access points all around the facility, blanket the whole place with wi-fi. |
| 16:09 | chris | :-) |
| 16:10 | string cat-5 up thru the windows :-) | |
| 16:10 | owen | It'd be cheaper, either way! |
| 16:10 | chris | yep |
| 16:11 | owen | Hopefully the hotel where we're staying will have a better policy (I'm not even sure where that is!) |
| 16:11 | kados: do you know? | |
| 16:11 | chris | maybe it will be like the redroof inn, with ethernet jacks in the wall, but them not being connected to anything :-) |
| 16:12 | owen | Oh yeah! That was very helpful. |
| 16:12 | chris | the holiday inn in cleveland had free access |
| 16:12 | just plug into the wall, dhcp an address and u were away | |
| 16:13 | owen | If anyone's interested, here's a link to the PDF of the first day's schedule, when Joshua and I are speaking: http://olc.org/wednesdayschedule.pdf |
| 16:29 | kados | shhh |
| 16:29 | chris | owen and or joshua, u guys no much about AACR2 |
| 16:30 | kados | don't tell :-) |
| 16:30 | chris | excellent |
| 16:30 | kados | lemme check |
| 16:30 | owen | chris: no |
| 16:30 | kados | :-) |
| 16:30 | chris | its a cataloguing standard as far as i can tell |
| 16:30 | kados | nope |
| 16:30 | chris | or more a way of displaying catalogue info |
| 16:30 | owen | kados: it was too good an idea for someone not to be actually doing it! |
| 16:30 | kados | hehe |
| 16:31 | well I had a brief stint with AACR2 when I did some research for my Z-server | |
| 16:31 | but not much | |
| 16:31 | chris | they are gonna have a crack at making an AARC2 theme for the opac |
| 16:31 | owen | o O (KIG?) |
| 16:31 | chris | koha interest group |
| 16:31 | theres quite a few members of the indian one now | |
| 16:33 | its good to see, argentina and india .. koha usage seems to be taking off | |
| 16:33 | owen | That's great. Seems like a prime market: low-budget, tech-savvy, English speaking. |
| 16:33 | chris | yeah |
| 16:33 | then we can say | |
| 16:33 | Koha : 1 billion indians cant be wrong | |
| 16:33 | kados | hehe |
| 16:33 | owen | :) |
| 16:34 | chris | heh |
| 16:38 | kados | msg owen I guess I should search our catalog first :-) |
| 16:39 | hehe | |
| 16:41 | chris | theres not often nothing else to do :-) |
| 16:41 | kados | :-) |
| 16:43 | tim | Anglo-American Cataloguing Rules. |
| 16:44 | Big 3-ring binder. | |
| 16:44 | chris | ahh right |
| 16:45 | tim | filled with gibberish... |
| 16:45 | chris | :-) |
| 16:46 | the existing system a lot of poeple are using in india has a AARC2 view .. which i suspect is just a way of ordering the information u display to the public | |
| 16:46 | owen | Like Paul's mysterious ISBD |
| 16:46 | (mysterious because it didn't work when we tried it) | |
| 16:46 | kados | I should really try to get a webcam on our Koha sessions |
| 16:46 | tim | I forgot a bunch of stuff about that from a class I took. |
| 16:46 | chris | :-) |
| 16:47 | tim | The webcam would be cool. Could you record it so we could watch it whenever we want? |
| 16:47 | kados | that'd be ideal |
| 16:48 | tim | It would be like a public access cable channel. |
| 16:48 | kados | yep |
| 16:48 | tim | The sound's awful on ours. |
| 16:49 | kados | anyone know of good video software for linux? |
| 16:50 | chris, you do some of that, eh? | |
| 16:50 | chris | not me |
| 16:50 | people at citylink do, but im not sure if they use linux | |
| 16:51 | kados | ahh |
| 16:51 | chris | http://r2.co.nz/ |
| 16:54 | i might try to get a webcam going for the wedding too | |
| 16:55 | depending on if the venue has any net access | |
| 16:55 | owen | Who knew we'd ever need to worry about net access for weddings? :) |
| 16:56 | chris | heh |
| 16:56 | who know my 79 year old grandma would have internet in her rest home, and ask about a web camera | |
| 16:56 | know=knew | |
| 16:56 | kados | hehe |
| 16:57 | I'm thinking of just snagging one of the library cams and converting it when I get back...looks like these USB webcams are hard to use with linux | |
| 16:57 | chris | might well be the easiest way |
| 16:58 | owen | I've got one here in Chauncey that's not being used (because I'm using the ibook for web site tests) |
| 16:58 | chris | ohhh si |
| 16:58 | si | complete with monster zoom lens |
| 16:59 | kados | wow ... that babys got a nic |
| 17:00 | http://alllinuxdevices.com/new[…]1-01-006-03-OP-HW | |
| 17:00 | and runs linux | |
| 17:00 | see ya owen | |
| 17:00 | chris | is that what citylink uses for its webcams si? |
| 17:01 | kados | yowser ... really expensive suckers |
| 17:03 | si | the good ones, yes |
| 17:04 | unfortuanately, I don't have the audio add on | |
| 17:04 | and if we could pick one up in the states somewhere | |
| 17:06 | chris | i was planning to grab a webcam over there, once i saw if it was going to be possible to get some kinda net access |
| 17:06 | we have a fancy DV camera from TLC to use for normal video | |
| 17:06 | well normal digital video :) i was only gonna a try a webcam if i could get a stream going :) | |
| 17:07 | si | $230 for the audio module as well |
| 17:07 | chris | ah right |
| 17:08 | si | which is no biggy |
| 17:08 | kados | :-) |
| 17:08 | chris | heh |
| 17:09 | si | and I'm sure there's a bunch of people back here who'd like to see the ceremony |
| 17:09 | chris | yep, the trick i think will be getting net at the place |
| 17:10 | si | is tha tlikely? |
| 17:10 | kados | depending on the locale you may be able to hop on someone's WAP |
| 17:11 | chris | i dont think so |
| 17:11 | kados | you won't believe how many open waps are about |
| 17:11 | chris | its in the middle of a park |
| 17:11 | but yeah, its a possible maybe .. which is why i was planning to scope it out when we got there | |
| 17:11 | i dont have to much hope | |
| 17:11 | kados | ahh ... you could always pringles can it |
| 17:11 | chris | they dont have an email address :) |
| 17:12 | kados | :-) |
| 17:12 | si | mmm, pringles cans |
| 17:12 | kados | http://www.turnpoint.net/wirel[…]s/mypringles.html |
| 17:12 | I've done a couple of these with great success | |
| 17:12 | chris | did you see the wok one joshua? |
| 17:12 | kados | no |
| 17:13 | chris | someone at the university here made an antenna from a wok, i wonder if i can find a url |
| 17:13 | si | ahh, the fish slice aerials? |
| 17:13 | kados | maybe that's it |
| 17:15 | chris | http://homepages.paradise.net.[…]adio%20aerial.htm <--not the one i was thinking off, but cool nonetheless |
| 17:15 | si | http://masseynews.massey.ac.nz[…]ses/06_11_04.html |
| 17:16 | chris | heh excellent |
| 17:21 | Joann | Goodmorning all |
| 17:22 | Si: had a good meeting with telstra yesterday. Sent you an email. | |
| 17:22 | kados | hi there |
| 17:22 | Joann | CHris: good luck with wedding |
| 17:22 | chris | thanks jo |
| 17:22 | Joann | have fun too |
| 17:22 | chris | ill do my best :) |
| 17:22 | kados | that wok looks alot sturdier than my pringles can |
| 17:23 | and not pay a dime | |
| 17:24 | there are so many open waps in the valley that my house sits at the top of | |
| 17:24 | :-) | |
| 17:24 | chris | all the students? |
| 17:25 | kados | yea ... plus all the rich profs |
| 17:25 | chris | :) |
| 17:25 | kados | wireless is getting pretty big in athens |
| 17:25 | I can pretty much hop from network to network on my zaurus all the way from my house to uptown | |
| 17:27 | chris | u need a wifi phone :-) |
| 18:21 | washington the state? or washington DC ? | |
| 18:21 | rach | DC |
| 18:22 | chris | 7.22pm |
| 18:22 | rach | ta |
| 18:22 | ok that's too late then :-) | |
| 18:22 | chris | yesterday :) |
| 18:23 | 4.23 in washington state | |
| 18:23 | http://www.worldtimeserver.com/ is what i use rach | |
| 18:23 | rach | ah no is definitly washington dc I want - just wasn't sure which way the time went |
| 18:24 | that's a bit odd | |
| 18:50 | chris | http://wra.scoolaid.net/cgi-bi[…]etail.pl?bib=2824 <-- looks quite nice |
| 19:54 | rach | Yep - so what is OPALS? |
| 19:54 | Is it Koha with a new name? | |
| 19:54 | chris | afaict yell, a modified koha |
| 19:55 | rach | yep - but just the OPAC maybe> |
| 19:56 | chris | yep |
| 20:45 | mikem | rach - are you around? |
| 20:50 | rach - e-mail heading your way | |
| 22:06 | rach | here |
| 22:06 | thanks mije | |
| 22:06 | mike | |
| 22:07 | mikem | thanks for that rach ... and yes I will ring next week |
| 22:08 | rach | cool - russ is away today, but I know that he is keen to hook up with you and get ya going :-) |
| 22:09 | and Rachel Prebee has been keen to help for ages as well, and she already knows the Kea system - so I reckon between you you'll be acouple of guns :-) | |
| 22:25 | mikem | which I suppose is good unless we shoot ourselves in the foot ;-) |
| 08:18 | matias | hello everyone |
| 08:41 | are you there? | |
| 08:47 | kados | hi there |
| 08:51 | matias | hi...how are you?... |
| 08:53 | I was looking at reserves... | |
| 08:54 | and to test it...I made a reserved for a book from opac... | |
| 08:55 | and then I tried to issued that book from intranet... | |
| 08:56 | supossely, I couldnŽt issued...but it happended... | |
| 08:56 | :-( | |
| 09:52 | paul | hello |
| 10:31 | matias | hello again |
| 10:31 | paul | hi |
| 10:31 | matias | hi paul..IŽm glad to find ou... :-) |
| 10:31 | how are you? | |
| 10:33 | an I ask you a question? | |
| 10:35 | what should happend when you want to issue an item...and you have a reserve for it?... | |
| 10:35 | paul | there should be a warning |
| 10:35 | matias | I mean...should it stop the issue proccess? |
| 10:35 | paul | asking if you confirm & remove the reserve |
| 10:36 | if you confirm=> stop the issue | |
| 10:36 | no | |
| 10:36 | if you confirm the issue => remove reserve & issue | |
| 10:36 | if you don't confirm => don't issue & do nothing for reserve | |
| 10:37 | matias | and this is what the 2.2 version should do? |
| 10:38 | then I may did it wrong... | |
| 10:42 | what do ou mean by remove the reserve...? | |
| 10:42 | it delete the reserve from the DBB? | |
| 10:42 | or just annuled it..? | |
| 11:01 | well....gotta go... | |
| 11:02 | thanks Paul for your help.. | |
| 11:02 | bye people... | |
| 11:02 | see ya | |
| 11:02 | paul | here |
| 11:02 | sorry, i missed your question. | |
| 11:02 | it's supposed to be deleted from the DDB | |
| 11:03 | (not sure it's "deleted". maybe it's marked "canceled") | |
| 11:03 | in fact, i havent' tested reserve a lot yet. | |
| 11:07 | matias | oh ok...IŽm testing that part right now... |
| 11:13 | supposely...it handle kind of priorities for reserves... | |
| 11:13 | when you confirm an issue, it set the reserveŽs priority to 0... | |
| 11:14 | paul | meaning it's canceled ? |
| 11:14 | does it appear in the reserve list from the borrower entry ? | |
| 11:15 | matias | I didnŽt chkc that..but I did this |
| 11:15 | I made a reserve for an item... | |
| 11:15 | its priority was set to 1... | |
| 11:15 | I did that from opac... | |
| 11:16 | then I went to intranet and try to issued that item... | |
| 11:16 | do you follow me? | |
| 11:16 | when I did it...it appears a warning to confirm that issue procces... | |
| 11:17 | only to confirm...not to cancel... | |
| 11:17 | paul | but if you confirm the issue process, you cancel the reserve |
| 11:18 | go to members => search member | |
| 11:18 | matias | if you confirm => issue the item and set that founded reserve priority to 0 |
| 11:18 | thatŽs what Idid | |
| 11:18 | paul | if you go to members area |
| 11:18 | and search for the member that did the reserve | |
| 11:18 | does it still appear or is there a "no reserve" ? | |
| 11:19 | if that's it, then it's working as it's supposed to do. | |
| 11:19 | when issuing => ask for confirmation because there is a reserve | |
| 11:19 | if confirmed => cancel the reserve | |
| 11:19 | matias | it appears a table for the requested items and says none... |
| 11:20 | paul | so, it work |
| 11:20 | s | |
| 11:20 | go in OPAC again and reserve again | |
| 11:20 | matias | ok |
| 11:20 | paul | then in the lbrarian interface, search for the member |
| 11:20 | you should see the reserve | |
| 11:23 | matias | yes...it is... |
| 11:23 | paul | so it works fine |
| 11:23 | matias | ok...now...donŽt we have to show to the librarian that you have to confirm because you have a reserve on that book? |
| 11:24 | paul | the confirm box does not show that ? |
| 11:24 | it's a bug... | |
| 11:24 | it just show "confirm the issue (Y/N)" ? | |
| 11:25 | matias | yeap..it says... This issued needs confirmation and thereŽs a confirm button... |
| 11:25 | ok...go to dinner...thanks a lot for your help | |
| 11:25 | paul_away | but does not show just before the confirm button the reason ? |
| 11:25 | strange... | |
| 11:26 | matias | nope |
| 11:26 | paul_away | i'll look |
| 11:26 | matias | look.. |
| 11:26 | paul_away | it's a bug. |
| 11:26 | it's supposed to do. | |
| 11:26 | bye, i leave | |
| 11:27 | matias | IŽll work with emiliano this afternoon...weŽll make a doc about about all this reserves things..how it is working until now...and what is our proposal for that.. |
| 11:27 | we are going to email that doc for you..ok? | |
| 11:27 | see ya later...and thanks again... | |
| 11:34 | bye all | |
| 11:34 | see ya |
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